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Fun With Dick And George? You Oughta Know

I wondered how long we’d have to wait after the Time Bush/Cheney legacy article a coupla weeks ago before there was crossfire.

And, lo and behold?

Shooter fires back using Barton Gellman as a conduit for carefully worded scattershots. (yeah, yeah, bad pun.)

Anyone else feel like the whole fricking nation is stuck in an angry Alanis Morissette song with those two just certain their 15 minutes never, ever ends?

More fun with Dick and George?

Oh…joy.

PS — Will hopefully see some of you at my legal panel this afternoon at 3 pm at Netroots Nation. For those who aren’t in Pittsburgh? I’m hoping to have a link for you to a webcast of the panel. More on that as I firm it up.

(Obvious angry Morissette YouTube. Which one? You oughta know…)


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35 Responses to "Fun With Dick And George? You Oughta Know"
Adie | Friday August 14, 2009 06:34 am 1

Hey Redd! Have a great time. I’ve got appt. at 2p. Dang. Will try to catch as much of yer panel as I can.

Soooooo glad youse guys are there! ;->


demi | Friday August 14, 2009 07:10 am 2

You’ll be awesome this afternoon, I just know it, girlfriend.


Millineryman | Friday August 14, 2009 07:42 am 3

Be your fabulous self and leave them wanting more.


punaise | Friday August 14, 2009 06:39 pm 4

done with Dick and George


eCAHNomics | Friday August 14, 2009 06:41 pm 5

Sestak on Rachel. Caught him at NN this afternoon, when he averred that he got turned down many times on asking girls to go to the prom (larger story worth a replay) and it took him 47 years to get a woman to accept his offer of marriage. I gotta tell you, I’d go to the prom with him in an eyeblink. He’s handsome and articulate. Marriage, well, I’d have to know him better.


newspaperbrat | Friday August 14, 2009 06:53 pm 6

((((punaise))))


punaise | Friday August 14, 2009 06:55 pm 7
In response to newspaperbrat @ 6

hey npb! been a while…


RevBev | Friday August 14, 2009 07:03 pm 8

Moyers on health care tonight…quite good. Kathleen Hall Jamison looking at the meetings, debate, coverage, etc.


eCAHNomics | Friday August 14, 2009 07:04 pm 9
In response to RevBev @ 8

Moyers have any suggestions on how to get around the administration/congressional medical corp whores?


eCAHNomics | Friday August 14, 2009 07:06 pm 10

Obama sez he “believes” in the constitution. WTF does that mean. The U.S. constitution is supposed to be a law not a religion.


ratfood | Friday August 14, 2009 07:29 pm 11
In response to eCAHNomics @ 9

Since it would require action by government to reduce corporate influence on government, I am confident we will never witness such a reduction to any substantive degree.

The only way I can imagine to sidestep the executive/legislative corp whores is to become Canadian and If most of our uninsured Americans had the requisite income to immigrate they could afford to stay home and insure themselves. I suspect the “C” at the end of Washington DC stands for clusterfuck.


eCAHNomics | Friday August 14, 2009 07:32 pm 12
In response to ratfood @ 11

I’m about as pessimistic as you. I sent money to go to NN, but decided that the additional spending for transportation and hotel was not worth the effort, since the NN are domed to failure. Just hanging out here for solace.


Twain | Friday August 14, 2009 07:36 pm 13
In response to eCAHNomics @ 12

Why was it doomed? Haven’t been to one but it looks as if it would be informative and interesting and certainly fun.


eCAHNomics | Friday August 14, 2009 07:40 pm 14
In response to Twain @ 13

Not interested in information and interesting and fun. Only interested in success. Doesnt seem very likely. So wasted something like 300 dollars rather than wasting 1000 dollars.


zarf | Friday August 14, 2009 07:43 pm 15

I saw the Bush Cheney years as akin to sitting at the slots for 8 years. Nothing we could do and time slipping by for all of us.
Catch up is Hell, as we all knew it would be.


Sharkbabe | Friday August 14, 2009 07:44 pm 16

Wow, even Dick War n Torture Cheney tied up in the trunk regretting his blind date with seeming fun guy George Bush!

Now that’s some sweet!


KellyCDenver | Friday August 14, 2009 07:50 pm 17
In response to eCAHNomics @ 14

The Progressive Movement is mostly process, with few events along the way, like elections, and say, oh, conferences like Netroots.

Surely you understood that.

As an economist, you expected to purchase a result?


Twain | Friday August 14, 2009 07:53 pm 18
In response to Sharkbabe @ 16

Not even a goodnight kiss ! Well, what can you expect from such a cheap date?


EvilDrPuma | Friday August 14, 2009 07:54 pm 19
In response to Sharkbabe @ 16

And just think about it…Sh0oter volunteered to go to the prom with George. There were real expectations there. But leave it to George, he screws up everything he touches.


ratfood | Friday August 14, 2009 07:58 pm 20
In response to KellyCDenver @ 17

eCAHN can speak for herself but I took the “result” she mentioned as referring to passage of substantive health care reform. When Obama is cutting deals with Big Pharma behind closed doors and many (if not most) House and Senate Dems are actively servicing the corporate interests that need to be reined in, and ALL of them dismissing those of us favoring a strong public option as the EXTREME LEFT, what real hope is there for reform?

Yes I know, it is crucial to continue the fight but one grows tired…


TheLurkingMod | Friday August 14, 2009 08:01 pm 21

TBogg is upstairs!
Me write pretty some day


KellyCDenver | Friday August 14, 2009 08:03 pm 22
In response to ratfood @ 20

I understand that, but the 2 things, Netroots and Healthcare Reform aren’t in the same canoe as regards “waste” “information” “interesting” and “fun.”

Netroots is wide, but one event, dedicated to talking about many issues.

Healthcare reform is one issue, narrow, albeit mightily important, still in process.

They’re just not the same. And you’re right, eCAHN can speak for herself.


nahant | Friday August 14, 2009 08:03 pm 23

Hey Pups TGIF!! How is everyone doing?


ThingsComeUndone | Friday August 14, 2009 08:04 pm 24

So just when is shooter going to explain why he shot that guy in the face? And why is the press avoiding asking that question


ratfood | Friday August 14, 2009 08:08 pm 25
In response to KellyCDenver @ 22

I don’t have any complaint with NN. I’m certain mingling with kindred spirits helps recharge the batteries.


Teddy Partridge | Friday August 14, 2009 08:12 pm 26

Dick Cheney is certifiably insane. A loving family would keep him away from memoir-producing technology and technologists, disallow his obsessive visits to the National Archives, obtain for him a devoted pet, put him with his grandchildren in a safe environment, and get him regular professional help. His hysterical madness over not having prevented 9/11 — a lapse for which he was never punished, but a huge security lapse he thinks he effectively hid from the American people — is now increasing with his hands off the levers of power.

Do you think the 8/4/01 PDB is the only document warning of attack on the United States? I don’t. And Dick Cheney knows it is only a matter of time until his entire negligence is laid bare. This frightens him mightily.


newtonusr | Friday August 14, 2009 08:18 pm 27
In response to Teddy Partridge @ 26

Shooter will expire before he faces the music. He is Ken Lay’s kinda hero.
As for his fetid family, let us hope that we suddenly remember how to write history books in this country.


Hugh | Friday August 14, 2009 08:22 pm 28

Dick Cheney is certifiably insane.

Probably but mostly he is just another American fascist.


ratfood | Friday August 14, 2009 08:28 pm 29
In response to Hugh @ 28

Dick Cheney is a testament to Huey Long’s prescience in saying, “-of course we’ll have fascism in America but we’ll call it democracy.”


PJEvans | Friday August 14, 2009 09:04 pm 30
In response to Teddy Partridge @ 26

Anyone who would want him around their children is certifiable.
Anyone who would allow him around their children needs a visit from Children’s Services.


prostratedragon | Friday August 14, 2009 09:27 pm 31

Somehow Cheney seems never to have understood that all in all he’s still just a courtier and someone else, however inadequate, is king. Looking for a historical parallel I came upon an account of Thomas Wentworth (heats up at the link, but the whole story is on point) that has some nice similarities. One might even wonder whether Cheney actually does know about the story, given the whole Gang-of-Four-as-Good-as-Eight business.

Nice catch from Teddy on DC’s sense of inadequacy, which I think actually began this most recent flare-up with his leaving behind at Halliburton such a big mess that only world-class graft could salvage any sense for him that he was a great industrial magnate.


MarkH | Friday August 14, 2009 10:24 pm 32
In response to ratfood @ 20

Yes I know, it is crucial to continue the fight but one grows tired…

Everybody has their ups and downs. Even superstars need a breather every now and then.


prostratedragon | Friday August 14, 2009 10:54 pm 33
In response to prostratedragon @ 31

Then there’s the intensely dark farce which ends the tale of Thomas Cromwell. Is anything emptier than kingly regret?

There could have been few more compelling reasons to follow the news in London of those days than knowing what fresh sight awaited one’s next Bridge crossing.


prostratedragon | Friday August 14, 2009 10:55 pm 34

(Nice twist of the knife, that “1st Earl of Essex [gasp!] part. )


Styve | Saturday August 15, 2009 11:06 am 35
In response to eCAHNomics @ 10

He was just using the language of the NRA guy, and he was mocking the remark a bit.


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