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	<title>Comments on: Tortured Logic:  In The Government&#8217;s Own Words</title>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/08/10/tortured-logic-in-the-governments-own-words/#comment-17590</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Christy,&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for writing about this. There is something really wrong going on here, and it needs to be more widely known. Your diary helps!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christy,<br />
Thanks for writing about this. There is something really wrong going on here, and it needs to be more widely known. Your diary helps!</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: NealDeesit</title>
		<link>http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/08/10/tortured-logic-in-the-governments-own-words/#comment-17589</link>
		<dc:creator>NealDeesit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Third time’s the charm? Maybe a block quote will survive the comment software’s ravenous maw.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;During these many years of detention, and all the subsequent hearings, proceedings, filings, defense evidentiary challenges, and up to and including demands directly from Judge Kollar-Kotelly — no newbie to intel proceedings, having just finished a term as the head of the FISA Court — for particulars on evidentiary issues of questionable detail and firmness?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Am I missing something, or does the foregoing collection of words lack a verb somewhere that would make it an English sentence?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Third time’s the charm? Maybe a block quote will survive the comment software’s ravenous maw.</p>
<blockquote><p>During these many years of detention, and all the subsequent hearings, proceedings, filings, defense evidentiary challenges, and up to and including demands directly from Judge Kollar-Kotelly — no newbie to intel proceedings, having just finished a term as the head of the FISA Court — for particulars on evidentiary issues of questionable detail and firmness?</p>
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<p>Am I missing something, or does the foregoing collection of words lack a verb somewhere that would make it an English sentence?</p>
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		<title>By: NealDeesit</title>
		<link>http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/08/10/tortured-logic-in-the-governments-own-words/#comment-17588</link>
		<dc:creator>NealDeesit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry for the double post. Apparently the commenting software has an occasional taste for italic food.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;During these many years of detention, and all the subsequent hearings, proceedings, filings, defense evidentiary challenges, and up to and including demands directly from Judge Kollar-Kotelly — no newbie to intel proceedings, having just finished a term as the head of the FISA Court — for particulars on evidentiary issues of questionable detail and firmness?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Am I missing something, or does the foregoing collection of words lack a verb somewhere that would make it an English sentence?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the double post. Apparently the commenting software has an occasional taste for italic food.</p>
<p><em>During these many years of detention, and all the subsequent hearings, proceedings, filings, defense evidentiary challenges, and up to and including demands directly from Judge Kollar-Kotelly — no newbie to intel proceedings, having just finished a term as the head of the FISA Court — for particulars on evidentiary issues of questionable detail and firmness?</em></p>
<p>Am I missing something, or does the foregoing collection of words lack a verb somewhere that would make it an English sentence?</p>
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		<title>By: NealDeesit</title>
		<link>http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/08/10/tortured-logic-in-the-governments-own-words/#comment-17587</link>
		<dc:creator>NealDeesit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;During these many years of detention, and all the subsequent hearings, proceedings, filings, defense evidentiary challenges, and up to and including demands directly from Judge Kollar-Kotelly — no newbie to intel proceedings, having just finished a term as the head of the FISA Court — for particulars on evidentiary issues of questionable detail and firmness?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Am I missing something, or does the foregoing collection of words lack a verb somewhere that would make it an English sentence?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>During these many years of detention, and all the subsequent hearings, proceedings, filings, defense evidentiary challenges, and up to and including demands directly from Judge Kollar-Kotelly — no newbie to intel proceedings, having just finished a term as the head of the FISA Court — for particulars on evidentiary issues of questionable detail and firmness?</em></p>
<p>Am I missing something, or does the foregoing collection of words lack a verb somewhere that would make it an English sentence?</p>
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		<title>By: DeanOR</title>
		<link>http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/08/10/tortured-logic-in-the-governments-own-words/#comment-17586</link>
		<dc:creator>DeanOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Water-boarding creates the “perception” of suffocation/drowning. The person perceives it because that it what is happening.&lt;br /&gt;
One thing this very effective video doesn’t convey is the effect of these torture techniques when used repeatedly over a long term, especially with extreme isolation. The victim’s mind is destroyed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Water-boarding creates the “perception” of suffocation/drowning. The person perceives it because that it what is happening.<br />
One thing this very effective video doesn’t convey is the effect of these torture techniques when used repeatedly over a long term, especially with extreme isolation. The victim’s mind is destroyed.</p>
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		<title>By: DeanOR</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeanOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You say there’s “insufficient evidence” to hold these guys? Well, hey, that’s why we need to torture them, to get the goods on them. It’s a no-brainer. Back to the 14th century.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say there’s “insufficient evidence” to hold these guys? Well, hey, that’s why we need to torture them, to get the goods on them. It’s a no-brainer. Back to the 14th century.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Eric Holder, Obama, Leahy, Whitehouse, Feinstein “no one is above the law”&lt;br /&gt;
I want to believe&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric Holder, Obama, Leahy, Whitehouse, Feinstein “no one is above the law”<br />
I want to believe</p>
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		<title>By: chetnolian</title>
		<link>http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/08/10/tortured-logic-in-the-governments-own-words/#comment-17582</link>
		<dc:creator>chetnolian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oops. For me it’s the end of a long day. Bush 1 no, Bush 2 yes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. For me it’s the end of a long day. Bush 1 no, Bush 2 yes.</p>
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		<title>By: chetnolian</title>
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		<dc:creator>chetnolian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sadly, I think the answer is yes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, I think the answer is yes.</p>
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		<title>By: mntleo2</title>
		<link>http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/08/10/tortured-logic-in-the-governments-own-words/#comment-17580</link>
		<dc:creator>mntleo2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Amen ~ the WORLD needs to try these war criminals if we won’t take the responisbility to do it ourselves.  These thugs have been at it for 30 years, starting with the Reagan era in S American right up to now.  They ALL should be held accountable whether this is “looking back” or not! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cat In Seattle&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen ~ the WORLD needs to try these war criminals if we won’t take the responisbility to do it ourselves.  These thugs have been at it for 30 years, starting with the Reagan era in S American right up to now.  They ALL should be held accountable whether this is “looking back” or not! </p>
<p>Cat In Seattle</p>
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