Comments on: A Tale Of Two JAGs http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/ Dip your toe in the legal waters and change politics as you know it. http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:06:02 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Teddy Partridge http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14807 Teddy Partridge Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:46:19 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14807 <p>His untruth goes to his very core and is central to his being. That’s the problem with the closet, it enables so many other easier lies.</p> His untruth goes to his very core and is central to his being. That’s the problem with the closet, it enables so many other easier lies.

]]> By: Christy Hardin Smith http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14806 Christy Hardin Smith Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:51:42 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14806 <p>If someone is really a terrorist, don’t you think we ought to just secure a lawful conviction and send them to detention for life like we do every other criminal that is a threat to the nation under the rule of law? I’ve done that with murderers any number of times.</p> <p>The only reason to subvert the lawful process? Is if you don’t have the evidence to sustain a conviction under it — and you don’t want to admit that out loud.</p> If someone is really a terrorist, don’t you think we ought to just secure a lawful conviction and send them to detention for life like we do every other criminal that is a threat to the nation under the rule of law? I’ve done that with murderers any number of times.

The only reason to subvert the lawful process? Is if you don’t have the evidence to sustain a conviction under it — and you don’t want to admit that out loud.

]]> By: bgrothus http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14802 bgrothus Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:31:45 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14802 <p>This site has some great adhesive wall graphics. Try www dot in front, the linkee bug never works for me.<br /> storesense4.megawebservers.com/modernwallgraphics_com</p> This site has some great adhesive wall graphics. Try www dot in front, the linkee bug never works for me.
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]]> By: DLoerke http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14801 DLoerke Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:17:08 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14801 <p>A country cannot allow terrorists to wander its streets. A country at war can indefinitely detain enemy combatants (see World War II German cases). Ipso facto, The terrorists can (and should) be kept at Guantanamo until the War Against Islamo-Fascist Terrorism has ended.</p> A country cannot allow terrorists to wander its streets. A country at war can indefinitely detain enemy combatants (see World War II German cases). Ipso facto, The terrorists can (and should) be kept at Guantanamo until the War Against Islamo-Fascist Terrorism has ended.

]]> By: Oval12345678akaJamesKSayre http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14799 Oval12345678akaJamesKSayre Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:14:08 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14799 <p>Imagine having the “rule of law” under imperial President Obama… He seems to want freedom of speech and freedom of assembly in Iran, but not in Iraq or Afghanistan, where we continue our hostile military imperial occupations without end…</p> <p>O/T: to Stephanie of the Stephanie Miller radio show, allegedly “progressive.”</p> <p>Dear Stephanie,</p> <p>I turned in your radio show on “green” 960 in SF this AM and I was disgusted to hear that you thought that it was a good thing that the Russians are allowing US war material to be flown over their territory. Our imperial occupation of Afghanistan is wrong; it is criminal. We were never attacked by the Afghan people; we were attacked by 15 Saudi dupes and Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush. Please note that the USofA, under Reagan with the help of the CIA created the forerunners of the Taliban to harass the government of Afghanistan, which was showing signs of doing something for the average man back in the early 1980s. Heaven forbid. The USoA, imperialist in the 3rd world since 1898, started with the slaughter of some 200,000 Filipinos who had the gall to resist American colonial occupation of their country back in 1899. Charming to hear that a so-called “progressive” is on board with USofA imperialism in Afghanistan, along with war criminals Cheney, Bush and Obama. Heck of job, Stephanie.</p> <p>Yours truly,</p> <p>James K. Sayre</p> Imagine having the “rule of law” under imperial President Obama… He seems to want freedom of speech and freedom of assembly in Iran, but not in Iraq or Afghanistan, where we continue our hostile military imperial occupations without end…

O/T: to Stephanie of the Stephanie Miller radio show, allegedly “progressive.”

Dear Stephanie,

I turned in your radio show on “green” 960 in SF this AM and I was disgusted to hear that you thought that it was a good thing that the Russians are allowing US war material to be flown over their territory. Our imperial occupation of Afghanistan is wrong; it is criminal. We were never attacked by the Afghan people; we were attacked by 15 Saudi dupes and Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush. Please note that the USofA, under Reagan with the help of the CIA created the forerunners of the Taliban to harass the government of Afghanistan, which was showing signs of doing something for the average man back in the early 1980s. Heaven forbid. The USoA, imperialist in the 3rd world since 1898, started with the slaughter of some 200,000 Filipinos who had the gall to resist American colonial occupation of their country back in 1899. Charming to hear that a so-called “progressive” is on board with USofA imperialism in Afghanistan, along with war criminals Cheney, Bush and Obama. Heck of job, Stephanie.

Yours truly,

James K. Sayre

]]> By: Christy Hardin Smith http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14797 Christy Hardin Smith Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:11:57 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14797 <p>Spencer hits that as well in the piece linked above — he was watching the testimony on the Hill yesterday, I know. Am hoping he was able to catch Vandeveld’s testimony this morning because there was no livestream to be able to watch it from here. Have been scrambling this morning to see if any tape of it will be made available anywhere.</p> Spencer hits that as well in the piece linked above — he was watching the testimony on the Hill yesterday, I know. Am hoping he was able to catch Vandeveld’s testimony this morning because there was no livestream to be able to watch it from here. Have been scrambling this morning to see if any tape of it will be made available anywhere.

]]> By: sporkovat http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14795 sporkovat Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:06:29 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14795 <p>greenwald also writes on this today:</p> <p><a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/07/08/obama/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/opinion/g.....index.html</a></p> <blockquote><p>Show trials are exactly what the Obama administration is planning.  In i<strong>ts own twisted way, the Bush approach was actually more honest and transparent:  they made no secret of their belief that the President could imprison anyone he wanted without any process at all.  That’s clearly the Obama view as well</strong>, but he’s creating an elaborate, multi-layered, and purely discretionary “justice system” that accomplishes exactly the same thing while creating the false appearance that there is due process being accorded.  </p></blockquote> greenwald also writes on this today:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/g…..index.html

Show trials are exactly what the Obama administration is planning.  In its own twisted way, the Bush approach was actually more honest and transparent:  they made no secret of their belief that the President could imprison anyone he wanted without any process at all.  That’s clearly the Obama view as well, but he’s creating an elaborate, multi-layered, and purely discretionary “justice system” that accomplishes exactly the same thing while creating the false appearance that there is due process being accorded. 

]]> By: ybnormal http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14794 ybnormal Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:01:51 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14794 <p>The time has come; put - on - shoes ; walk - dog</p> The time has come; put – on – shoes ; walk – dog

]]> By: ybnormal http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14793 ybnormal Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:59:12 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14793 <p>I suppose there’s lot’s of reasons for joining JAG. Maybe the appeal for LG was the strict order of the military; except it probably didn’t turn out so predictable in real life.</p> <p>Still, when he said, “I got a feeling a lot of them [democrats] would agree with me.”; he might have a point.</p> <p>I’ve noticed in the world of pundit-dom, both dems and repubs seem to agree that Democrats can sometimes be their own problem.</p> I suppose there’s lot’s of reasons for joining JAG. Maybe the appeal for LG was the strict order of the military; except it probably didn’t turn out so predictable in real life.

Still, when he said, “I got a feeling a lot of them [democrats] would agree with me.”; he might have a point.

I’ve noticed in the world of pundit-dom, both dems and repubs seem to agree that Democrats can sometimes be their own problem.

]]> By: Christy Hardin Smith http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14792 Christy Hardin Smith Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:53:24 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/07/08/a-tale-of-two-jags/#comment-14792 <p>Welcome, Mr. demi. :)</p> <p>And yes, I believe that’s exactly what she means. *g*</p> Welcome, Mr. demi. :)

And yes, I believe that’s exactly what she means. *g*

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