Comments on: Porter Goss, Come On Down!

By: redfish

redfish — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:38:36 +0000

I just gave you a plethora of liberal positions on crime over the years. You just don’t like it when someone calls you on your hypocrisy and proves it.

By: Elliott

Elliott — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:33:11 +0000

lame-O

you got nothin’

By: redfish

redfish — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:27:08 +0000

Right. Liberals have always been for Law and Order, please! You’re not going to use your Sean Hannity tactics on me. The left has always been anti-police, anti-FBI, anti-CIA. Public defenders have been overwhelmingly liberal. Liberals have always been anti-death penalty, for lesser sentences for drug offenders, for treatment programs instead of incarceration, rehabilitation not punishment, rights for accused over victims, anti owning and using firearms for self defense.

I happen to support liberal positions on crime - but that’s not the issue here. Honesty and not hypocrisy is. Don’t tell me that liberals have always been for law and order. That’s a joke.

By: Elliott

Elliott — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:10:09 +0000

Oh no you don’t. You say we are “johnny come latelys’ to the Rule of Law” That’s not an opinion, it’s an accusation.

Not true. You won’t back it up because you can’t.

By: redfish

redfish — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:01:44 +0000

They are “my” opinions. I do not have to back up opinions that are based on my life experiences and observations. I have been actively involved in politics and activism since the Vietnam War and am well acquainted with what the prevailing sensibilities of liberals and democrats has been historically. I have never seen a more hateful, vengeful far-left than now.

By: Elliott

Elliott — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:37:28 +0000

the far-left’s insatiable thirst for revenge
…
this very “Johnny come lately” love of the rule of law is inconsistent with what the far-left has always believed

Back this up. Quotes and citations.

Where has anyone at Firedoglake not been for the Rule of Law?

And what’s this baloney about a “thirst for revenge” ?

By: redfish

redfish — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:37:51 +0000

What you fail to realize sir is that this is not a far-left country. A recent Gallup poll found that 75% of all Americans described themselves as conservative or moderate, while 23% described themselves as liberal.

You say, ” I am interested in getting more progressive Democrats in Congress, the rest of them can go to hell”. Who are you to tell the people of Louisiana that they can’t elect Mary Landrieu to represent their values in congress? Or suggest they go to hell?

The extreme left these days is not my democratic liberal party. It is hateful, rude, vulgar and completely outside of the mainstream of political thought in this country.

By: pastfedup

pastfedup — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:19:43 +0000

It seems ‘it’ responded to my comment, even though I was only advising Wigwam to ignore it. I’m not sure who these ‘extremist fringe activists on the far left’ are, again the term is (purposely) undefined, and as far as me and mine doing harm to this country, if working for justice is harm, then I’m guilty. As I stated earlier, my primary concern is with social and individual justice, not just for Americans, for people everywhere (even those ‘evildoers’ who we illegally tortured). A little social justice will certainly improve the lives of working people like me, even if it’s only from the standpoint of achieving a little moral satisfaction.

I am interested in getting more progressive Democrats in Congress, the rest of them can go to hell as far as I’m concerned. I worked to get Obama elected, I canvassed in-state and out of state for him. I have taken a wait-and-see approach in these early months, but what I’m seeing so far is not encouraging.

So far the actions have not matched the words - that was one tell-tale sign that the Bush administration were total liars, and it was evident early on; the actions were 180 degrees opposite from the words. I’ve found that with politicians, it’s always best to take a view through a teenager’s eyes - they can spot bullshit a mile away. Like the old sying goes, actions talk, bullshit walks. Anyone with kids knows this. And if a politician’s actions start straying from the flowery words, you’ve got to poke them a bit.

By: pokums

pokums — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:54:50 +0000

In response to SouthernDragon @ 8 (show text)
Loyal Bushies watch a foreign film from France?

About French colonialism, but was an Italian film, thus OK for Murkins to watch.

By: redfish

redfish — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:08:52 +0000

That’s right - call me a troll because I happen to politely disagree with you. I am interested in solutions. I am interested in furthering traditionally liberal and democratic policy without a historical chance to succeed being derailed by extremist fringe activists on the far left. You and yours do great harm to this country and I resent it. I value liberal supreme court justices and countless other liberal policy initiatives designed to improve the lives of working people in this country.

I realize that staying in power, keeping Obama as president and Democrats in control of congress is what is in this country’s best interest.