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	<title>Comments on: Whip The Public Plan:  Putting The Public Back In Health Care Policy</title>
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		<title>By: katiejacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>katiejacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How about starting a campaign that will ask any Senator that doesn’t support  government-run health care to give up theirs? If they are so committed to free markets, let the market do its magic for them. I have heard other people mention this idea. I think it would be very effective,&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about starting a campaign that will ask any Senator that doesn’t support  government-run health care to give up theirs? If they are so committed to free markets, let the market do its magic for them. I have heard other people mention this idea. I think it would be very effective,</p>
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		<title>By: lambertstrether</title>
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		<dc:creator>lambertstrether</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Blue, you quote Christy thus:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Any plan that does not put the public’s interest front and center, that does not make both “health” and “care” the standards, is a non-starter with me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Since any for-profit insurance company has to put the interests of its shareholders first — it’s their fiduciary responsibility to do so — that would make public option a “non-starter,” right? Exactly because it’s only an option, and the for-profit insurance companies are still in place?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blue, you quote Christy thus:</p>
<blockquote><p>Any plan that does not put the public’s interest front and center, that does not make both “health” and “care” the standards, is a non-starter with me.</p>
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<p>Since any for-profit insurance company has to put the interests of its shareholders first — it’s their fiduciary responsibility to do so — that would make public option a “non-starter,” right? Exactly because it’s only an option, and the for-profit insurance companies are still in place?</p>
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		<title>By: Gov4thePeople</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gov4thePeople</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So, is Joe Barton for a public option (or better yet, single payer?)  Does he think, after what he has seen in this one case alone that we should keep what we’ve got?  Or does he think it is just our responsibility to contact our Congresscriter if our insurance gets canceled once we are diagnosed with a severe illness to see if they can get our insurance companies to cover our health care so that we can all say “I owe my life to Congresscritter X, thank you so much, Conrgesscritter X.  You saved me Congresscritter X.  You’re my hero Congresscritter X,”  so Congresscritter X can feel good about him/herself (and get public praise) for this one life saved while having delegated 1000’s more to death?  This is absolutely horrible what this woman went through, but if Barton didn’t learn a lesson from it, he’s worthless and deserves no praise from anyone.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, is Joe Barton for a public option (or better yet, single payer?)  Does he think, after what he has seen in this one case alone that we should keep what we’ve got?  Or does he think it is just our responsibility to contact our Congresscriter if our insurance gets canceled once we are diagnosed with a severe illness to see if they can get our insurance companies to cover our health care so that we can all say “I owe my life to Congresscritter X, thank you so much, Conrgesscritter X.  You saved me Congresscritter X.  You’re my hero Congresscritter X,”  so Congresscritter X can feel good about him/herself (and get public praise) for this one life saved while having delegated 1000’s more to death?  This is absolutely horrible what this woman went through, but if Barton didn’t learn a lesson from it, he’s worthless and deserves no praise from anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Kassandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry you’re sick Christy. I’ve been screwing around with medical issues and insurance companies for 20 years now and it does take a toll. They count on that. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This public option thingy is repugnant to me. I think they should just leave everything as it is of that’s the best they can do and see what happens to America if they put US in the position of BEING FORCED to buy crappy insurance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I watched my brother, who’s made a pile off health insurance sell his company a couple of years ago and the buyers said it wasn’t worth anything until he got rid of all the insurance bennies for the people who had helped him build it. So he did, to make a  little more moolah. He’s gone over to the dark side, completely, prolly doing cartwheels at the thought of the gov turning US over to the likes of himself. Bleh.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Anyway, I found this article after hearing about on Hartmann the other day. I thought I’d share it with you folks:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-06/24/content_8315710.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CHINA: Experts urge stimulus package on social welfare&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;America is a laughing stock right now for what it’s done and is doing to it’s citizens. Even the Chinese know the well-being of their population is the way to pull themsleves out of the ditch of the economic crisis engineered by our American corporations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can’t BELIEVE there is even a debate on this let alone all this political compromise and posturing. They should be figuring out how to do it, not fighting about WHAT to do to to let the predators screw US over some more . Esp. after they sold US down the river to the banksters and the IMF, and , of course, more war.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; They sure don’t have any trouble with THEIR publicly funded health care!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How we wound up with a government like this after all these years of fighting it is totally beyond my comprehension.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry you’re sick Christy. I’ve been screwing around with medical issues and insurance companies for 20 years now and it does take a toll. They count on that. </p>
<p>This public option thingy is repugnant to me. I think they should just leave everything as it is of that’s the best they can do and see what happens to America if they put US in the position of BEING FORCED to buy crappy insurance.</p>
<p>I watched my brother, who’s made a pile off health insurance sell his company a couple of years ago and the buyers said it wasn’t worth anything until he got rid of all the insurance bennies for the people who had helped him build it. So he did, to make a  little more moolah. He’s gone over to the dark side, completely, prolly doing cartwheels at the thought of the gov turning US over to the likes of himself. Bleh.</p>
<p> Anyway, I found this article after hearing about on Hartmann the other day. I thought I’d share it with you folks:<br /><a href="http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-06/24/content_8315710.htm" rel="nofollow">CHINA: Experts urge stimulus package on social welfare</a></p>
<p>America is a laughing stock right now for what it’s done and is doing to it’s citizens. Even the Chinese know the well-being of their population is the way to pull themsleves out of the ditch of the economic crisis engineered by our American corporations.</p>
<p>I can’t BELIEVE there is even a debate on this let alone all this political compromise and posturing. They should be figuring out how to do it, not fighting about WHAT to do to to let the predators screw US over some more . Esp. after they sold US down the river to the banksters and the IMF, and , of course, more war.</p>
<p> They sure don’t have any trouble with THEIR publicly funded health care!</p>
<p>How we wound up with a government like this after all these years of fighting it is totally beyond my comprehension.</p>
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		<title>By: redfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>redfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here Is The Reality I Am Always Talking About:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;“A majority of Americans see government action as critical to controlling runaway health-care costs, but there is broad public anxiety about the potential impact of reform legislation and conflicting views about the types of fixes being proposed on Capitol Hill, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News Poll”.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;“Most Want Health Reform But Fear Its Side Effects Most respondents are “very concerned” that health-care reform would lead to higher costs, lower quality, fewer choices, a bigger deficit, diminished insurance coverage and more government bureaucracy. About six in 10 are at least somewhat worried about all of these factors, underscoring the challenges for lawmakers as they attempt to restructure the nation’s $2.3 trillion health-care system”. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here Is The Reality I Am Always Talking About:</p>
<p><em>“A majority of Americans see government action as critical to controlling runaway health-care costs, but there is broad public anxiety about the potential impact of reform legislation and conflicting views about the types of fixes being proposed on Capitol Hill, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News Poll”.</em></p>
<p><em>“Most Want Health Reform But Fear Its Side Effects Most respondents are “very concerned” that health-care reform would lead to higher costs, lower quality, fewer choices, a bigger deficit, diminished insurance coverage and more government bureaucracy. About six in 10 are at least somewhat worried about all of these factors, underscoring the challenges for lawmakers as they attempt to restructure the nation’s $2.3 trillion health-care system”. </em></p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;refresh - it’s there!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>refresh &#8211; it’s there!</p>
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		<title>By: alank</title>
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		<dc:creator>alank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This blog site of Christy’s still sucks, from a technical standpoint.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog site of Christy’s still sucks, from a technical standpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: alank</title>
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		<dc:creator>alank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Right, in the meantime, Blue’s comment disappears.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, in the meantime, Blue’s comment disappears.</p>
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		<title>By: alank</title>
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		<dc:creator>alank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Absolutely bang-on.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely bang-on.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What Should a Public Health Plan Option Include?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/5906&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;upstairs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Should a Public Health Plan Option Include?<br /><a href="http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/5906" rel="nofollow">upstairs</a></p>
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