Comments on: OLC And The US Senate: Nightmares From The Chamber Of Snorers http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/ Dip your toe in the legal waters and change politics as you know it. http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:06:02 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: MarkH http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13357 MarkH Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:51:09 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13357 <p>Well, for one, the prez takes all the credit & blame instead of blaming problems on his Veep. Most other things haven’t been worked out yet, so we have to wait.</p> Well, for one, the prez takes all the credit & blame instead of blaming problems on his Veep. Most other things haven’t been worked out yet, so we have to wait.

]]> By: MarkH http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13356 MarkH Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:48:53 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13356 <p>I thought that was when PJ was at his best. Oy</p> I thought that was when PJ was at his best. Oy

]]> By: laurenc http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13355 laurenc Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:51:32 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13355 <p>John Edwards tried to warn us that he learned power does not willingly negotiate, and that it had to be challenged head-on: he named the pharmaceutical companies and insurance lobbyists, and they found a way to destroy him. But before that, naiive progressives had chosen a candidate who believes in compromise. Have you heard the latest horror about his EPA Chief?</p> John Edwards tried to warn us that he learned power does not willingly negotiate, and that it had to be challenged head-on: he named the pharmaceutical companies and insurance lobbyists, and they found a way to destroy him. But before that, naiive progressives had chosen a candidate who believes in compromise. Have you heard the latest horror about his EPA Chief?

]]> By: questioneverything http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13354 questioneverything Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:29:42 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13354 <p>“Now if I was a Republican. . . .” He IS a Republican. We really need to get to 75 Dems in the Senate to wash out the effects of Baucus, et al.</p> “Now if I was a Republican. . . .” He IS a Republican. We really need to get to 75 Dems in the Senate to wash out the effects of Baucus, et al.

]]> By: oldgold http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13351 oldgold Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:55:47 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13351 <blockquote><p> His policies are <strong>designed</strong> to fail and will fail.</p> </blockquote> <p>Do you really believe that ?</p>

His policies are designed to fail and will fail.

Do you really believe that ?

]]> By: tk1200 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13350 tk1200 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:48:29 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13350 <p>I don’ t know exactly where your friend heard/read about the NASCAR idea, but I know I can take credit for it. I was either blind drunk at the time or cold stone sober, it’s hard to say which. I tend to start out sober and then find that only tremendous amounts of alcohol can get you through more than a few minutes of that circle of hell known as Yahoo answers.</p> <p>But to sum up the current situation: “We have met the enemy, and he is us.” We may have won the Congress and the Presidency but we have no leaders who are equal to the enormous task of adapting America to 21st century realities. The people are ahead of their political leaders, and our leaders instead of taking up the gauntlet and fighting for what the people need and want are content to navel gaze and practice their Hamlet. I can hear Harry Reid intone: “To be or not to be. That is the question. Whether it is nobler to……”</p> <p>I am tired of this shit. Shit from individuals who are eager claim the mantle of leadership, and then time and again explain why this or that can’t possibly be done. We are inundated with bullshit artists, and I’m tired of it.</p> I don’ t know exactly where your friend heard/read about the NASCAR idea, but I know I can take credit for it. I was either blind drunk at the time or cold stone sober, it’s hard to say which. I tend to start out sober and then find that only tremendous amounts of alcohol can get you through more than a few minutes of that circle of hell known as Yahoo answers.

But to sum up the current situation: “We have met the enemy, and he is us.” We may have won the Congress and the Presidency but we have no leaders who are equal to the enormous task of adapting America to 21st century realities. The people are ahead of their political leaders, and our leaders instead of taking up the gauntlet and fighting for what the people need and want are content to navel gaze and practice their Hamlet. I can hear Harry Reid intone: “To be or not to be. That is the question. Whether it is nobler to……”

I am tired of this shit. Shit from individuals who are eager claim the mantle of leadership, and then time and again explain why this or that can’t possibly be done. We are inundated with bullshit artists, and I’m tired of it.

]]> By: earlofhuntingdon http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13349 earlofhuntingdon Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:23:11 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13349 <p>The Democratic leadersheep, baaa’ed by Harry Reidless, hopes that soul searching among his Senatorial brethren and sisteren will lead them to adopt an agenda - approval of nominations, in this case - that it’s not willing to fight for?</p> <p>Now even Harry understands a few things about politics. Which means that he’s telling his colleagues two things: Not to worry their pretty little heads over staffing the DoJ that Bush figuratively just burnt to the ground. One, no one of consequence - not the head the permanent head the OLC desperately needs or replacements for any of dozens of USA’s - will be coming up for a vote until after the county fairs are over and Senator Swines see how much was ladled into their troughs over the summer. And two, that competently staffing the DoJ is not what Obama wants done. Otherwise he’d be making phone calls and having Rahm Baby arm-twist like he was collecting bad debts for Scarface Al.</p> <p>Getting done what the people want done: what Democrats fear more than Republicans.</p> The Democratic leadersheep, baaa’ed by Harry Reidless, hopes that soul searching among his Senatorial brethren and sisteren will lead them to adopt an agenda – approval of nominations, in this case – that it’s not willing to fight for?

Now even Harry understands a few things about politics. Which means that he’s telling his colleagues two things: Not to worry their pretty little heads over staffing the DoJ that Bush figuratively just burnt to the ground. One, no one of consequence – not the head the permanent head the OLC desperately needs or replacements for any of dozens of USA’s – will be coming up for a vote until after the county fairs are over and Senator Swines see how much was ladled into their troughs over the summer. And two, that competently staffing the DoJ is not what Obama wants done. Otherwise he’d be making phone calls and having Rahm Baby arm-twist like he was collecting bad debts for Scarface Al.

Getting done what the people want done: what Democrats fear more than Republicans.

]]> By: Hugh http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13347 Hugh Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:16:41 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13347 <p>It should be very clear by now that Obama and the Democrats fight for what they want and don’t fight for what they don’t care about. What they do care about are mostly Republican ideas. Progressive ideas, not at all. The surprise is that Dawn Johnsen was ever nominated. That Obama and Reid are allowing her nomiation to twist slowly in the wind is none at all.</p> <p>The main reason why I am a progressive is because I want fair solutions to our nation’s problems but I want ones that work. In abandoning progressives, Obama has also turned his back on real workable solutions. Given his track record so far and his consistency, despite the rhetoric, to embrace conservative positions across the board, I don’t see how his Presidency can be successful. His policies are designed to fail and will fail. I would have liked Obama to succeed, not because of him, but because the country needs for him to be successful. But it isn’t going to happen.</p> It should be very clear by now that Obama and the Democrats fight for what they want and don’t fight for what they don’t care about. What they do care about are mostly Republican ideas. Progressive ideas, not at all. The surprise is that Dawn Johnsen was ever nominated. That Obama and Reid are allowing her nomiation to twist slowly in the wind is none at all.

The main reason why I am a progressive is because I want fair solutions to our nation’s problems but I want ones that work. In abandoning progressives, Obama has also turned his back on real workable solutions. Given his track record so far and his consistency, despite the rhetoric, to embrace conservative positions across the board, I don’t see how his Presidency can be successful. His policies are designed to fail and will fail. I would have liked Obama to succeed, not because of him, but because the country needs for him to be successful. But it isn’t going to happen.

]]> By: tbsa http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13346 tbsa Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:06:03 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13346 <p>I definitely voted for Obama and every democratic candidate since I’ve been able to vote. In the last month I have come to realize there is no possibility of solving any of this county’s problems because the corporations own the country and they only care about people to the extent that they can use them to get a tighter grip on power and money.</p> I definitely voted for Obama and every democratic candidate since I’ve been able to vote. In the last month I have come to realize there is no possibility of solving any of this county’s problems because the corporations own the country and they only care about people to the extent that they can use them to get a tighter grip on power and money.

]]> By: UnkaWillbur http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13344 UnkaWillbur Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:04:20 +0000 http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/06/16/olc-and-the-us-senate-nightmares-from-the-chamber-of-snorers/#comment-13344 <p>I mean, is this <em>really </em>any surprise? </p> <p>On stopping the war in Iraq, on government transparency, on constitutional rights, on the Rule of Law, on civil rights for LGBT folks, on finance and on energy, the Obama administration, aided and abetted by the right-wing majority in congress has reneged on every significant campaign promise they’ve made, and it’s not six months into this sham of a presidency.</p> <p>Can anyone actually name any Obama policy that is significantly different from that of his predecessor?</p> <p>Progressives need to start <strong>NOW</strong> to get both the Cowardly Lion and his fellow travelers in the right-wing (majority) of the Democratic party unelected from both congress and the White House. Otherwise, we deserve the drubbing we get, for acting like the worst kind of patsies.</p> I mean, is this really any surprise?

On stopping the war in Iraq, on government transparency, on constitutional rights, on the Rule of Law, on civil rights for LGBT folks, on finance and on energy, the Obama administration, aided and abetted by the right-wing majority in congress has reneged on every significant campaign promise they’ve made, and it’s not six months into this sham of a presidency.

Can anyone actually name any Obama policy that is significantly different from that of his predecessor?

Progressives need to start NOW to get both the Cowardly Lion and his fellow travelers in the right-wing (majority) of the Democratic party unelected from both congress and the White House. Otherwise, we deserve the drubbing we get, for acting like the worst kind of patsies.

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