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	<title>Comments on: SCOTUS:  Media Heathers Want To Talk &#8220;Character&#8221; Now</title>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://christyhardinsmith.firedoglake.com/2009/05/29/scotus-media-heathers-want-to-talk-character-now/#comment-12542</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 22:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I see that the ever thoughtful Times has changed its online description of Ms. Sotomayor’s style from “Sharp Tongue” to “Blunt”.  They should have needed to be told.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that the ever thoughtful Times has changed its online description of Ms. Sotomayor’s style from “Sharp Tongue” to “Blunt”.  They should have needed to be told.</p>
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		<title>By: tejanarusa</title>
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		<dc:creator>tejanarusa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 21:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rhetorical question.  No doubt. about. it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Coming in late, I know.  my blood was reaching the boil… until I got to this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I understand that she has the reputation for being tough and doesn’t suffer fools gladly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I understand some of those fools may not be happy about that.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;{I once  had a reputation for not suffering fools gladly, either, nor did my father, who taught me to argue at the dinner table.   Tells you a lot about why I ultimately was unsuccessful in the telephone customer service biz.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There’s no doubt whatsoever - what’s good for the goose is NOT good for the gander in many people’s eyes.  (well, switch the sexes in that proverb)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhetorical question.  No doubt. about. it.</p>
<p>Coming in late, I know.  my blood was reaching the boil… until I got to this:</p>
<blockquote><p>I understand that she has the reputation for being tough and doesn’t suffer fools gladly.</p>
<p>I understand some of those fools may not be happy about that.</p>
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<p>{I once  had a reputation for not suffering fools gladly, either, nor did my father, who taught me to argue at the dinner table.   Tells you a lot about why I ultimately was unsuccessful in the telephone customer service biz.)</p>
<p>There’s no doubt whatsoever &#8211; what’s good for the goose is NOT good for the gander in many people’s eyes.  (well, switch the sexes in that proverb)</p>
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		<title>By: gardengirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>gardengirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 18:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Unbelievable how thin the veneer of “equality” is. Did anyone grill the white, male SCOTUS nominees on their viewpoints? It simply amazes me that any response other than milquetoast from a woman is automatically invalidated as “emotional” and “bitchy.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Has anyone seen the “How to be a good wife” excerpt from an old home-ec textbook that circulates about here and there? I wonder if that’s really what a lot of these openly sexist pundits really still believe.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbelievable how thin the veneer of “equality” is. Did anyone grill the white, male SCOTUS nominees on their viewpoints? It simply amazes me that any response other than milquetoast from a woman is automatically invalidated as “emotional” and “bitchy.”</p>
<p>Has anyone seen the “How to be a good wife” excerpt from an old home-ec textbook that circulates about here and there? I wonder if that’s really what a lot of these openly sexist pundits really still believe.</p>
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		<title>By: DeanOR</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeanOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 18:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Christy, I’m still waiting for the story that begins with “A Republican operative called me this morning and suggested I do this story (wrote it for me)”.&lt;br /&gt;
And the example of confrontational behavior that the NYT article cites was in the Maher Arar case, in which she aggressively asked whether the government is saying they have a license to torture. No judge should ever appear to have any feelings about torture.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christy, I’m still waiting for the story that begins with “A Republican operative called me this morning and suggested I do this story (wrote it for me)”.<br />
And the example of confrontational behavior that the NYT article cites was in the Maher Arar case, in which she aggressively asked whether the government is saying they have a license to torture. No judge should ever appear to have any feelings about torture.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 16:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;oh, that newt’s fortune would be the same as macbeth’s…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, that newt’s fortune would be the same as macbeth’s…</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 16:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There was no legitimate reason for Becker and Liptak to title their piece, “Sotomayor’s Sharp Tongue”.   The title is straightforward tabloid journalism [sic], regardless of the article’s content, so perhaps we should thank the front-page editor, too.  I’m sure no one at the NY Times has one or has ever been on the wrong side of one in the bedroom, the newsroom or the smoke-filled room.  It’s an attribute only of those with whom they can’t have their way. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even if Judge Sotomayor had one, far from certain, she would not be the first or only judge to have an acid tongue.  Even among the manicured and the courtly, they spring like mushrooms in the manure shoveled at them daily in court, even by the whitest white shoe firm lawyers in town.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Keeping control of her courtroom is as important as getting the law right.  If she ceded it to anyone, whether forthright and competent or negligent, narcissistic and corrupt, she would be finished as a competent jurist.  She has not.  She uses a mix of humor, chattiness, directness and command to make her points clear.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would favor a more progressive voice.  I fear Ms. Sotomayor may sometimes miss the legal forest for the statutory trees.   But her demeanor is not a problem; it’s an asset, and one thing the Right is afraid of.  It may feign apoplexy that she doesn’t look divine in pumps and pearls, but what it’s afraid of is that the most important part of her day is not looking good and having those two martinis ready for hubby when he comes home from a hard day’s work.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was no legitimate reason for Becker and Liptak to title their piece, “Sotomayor’s Sharp Tongue”.   The title is straightforward tabloid journalism [sic], regardless of the article’s content, so perhaps we should thank the front-page editor, too.  I’m sure no one at the NY Times has one or has ever been on the wrong side of one in the bedroom, the newsroom or the smoke-filled room.  It’s an attribute only of those with whom they can’t have their way. </p>
<p>Even if Judge Sotomayor had one, far from certain, she would not be the first or only judge to have an acid tongue.  Even among the manicured and the courtly, they spring like mushrooms in the manure shoveled at them daily in court, even by the whitest white shoe firm lawyers in town.</p>
<p>Keeping control of her courtroom is as important as getting the law right.  If she ceded it to anyone, whether forthright and competent or negligent, narcissistic and corrupt, she would be finished as a competent jurist.  She has not.  She uses a mix of humor, chattiness, directness and command to make her points clear.  </p>
<p>I would favor a more progressive voice.  I fear Ms. Sotomayor may sometimes miss the legal forest for the statutory trees.   But her demeanor is not a problem; it’s an asset, and one thing the Right is afraid of.  It may feign apoplexy that she doesn’t look divine in pumps and pearls, but what it’s afraid of is that the most important part of her day is not looking good and having those two martinis ready for hubby when he comes home from a hard day’s work.</p>
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		<title>By: constantweader</title>
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		<dc:creator>constantweader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 15:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What got me about the Times article was the way the Times hid way on the 2nd page (which you have to click on to read online) comments from respected jurists who refuted the sore-loser attorneys’ assessments.  The headline was misleading &amp; the structure of the story made the whole thing misleading.  The writers (or their editor) planned to do a hit job &amp; they buried the mitigating information. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; What I got out of the Times article (&amp;, yes, I had to read between the lines) is that a number of attorneys think Judge Sotomayor should act more like their maid who’s always so polite. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Constant Weader at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.RealityChex.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.RealityChex.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What got me about the Times article was the way the Times hid way on the 2nd page (which you have to click on to read online) comments from respected jurists who refuted the sore-loser attorneys’ assessments.  The headline was misleading &amp; the structure of the story made the whole thing misleading.  The writers (or their editor) planned to do a hit job &amp; they buried the mitigating information. </p>
<p> What I got out of the Times article (&amp;, yes, I had to read between the lines) is that a number of attorneys think Judge Sotomayor should act more like their maid who’s always so polite. </p>
<p>The Constant Weader at <a href="http://www.RealityChex.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.RealityChex.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 15:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Your time of the month, isn’t it?  Wimin judges should only git 80% pay; what with their “headaches” an all, they barely show up that many work days.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sharp-tongued observer that you are, you point out that the language the Right is using, like my parody, above, is about as archaic, sexist and vituperative as their attitudes.  It’s about them, not who they purport to describe.  Soon, I expect to hear them tell of visions by three anonymous of soothsayers dancing round a bubbling cauldron of trouble, giving Newt his political fortune over a broth of newt’s eye and frog’s toe.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The good thing is that Cheney’s damned spot will not out and that his successors’ fortunes will fare no better.  I’m optimistic that blogs such as yours can be the substitute carriers of the Birnam woods to Capitol Hill.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Right has no shame, no restraint, no context for its angst, just greed and lust for power, diapers and no accountability.  It will be up to citizens and their pitchforks to make clear whether those are sufficient attributes for high office and the control of their courthouse, state house and White House.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your time of the month, isn’t it?  Wimin judges should only git 80% pay; what with their “headaches” an all, they barely show up that many work days.  </p>
<p>Sharp-tongued observer that you are, you point out that the language the Right is using, like my parody, above, is about as archaic, sexist and vituperative as their attitudes.  It’s about them, not who they purport to describe.  Soon, I expect to hear them tell of visions by three anonymous of soothsayers dancing round a bubbling cauldron of trouble, giving Newt his political fortune over a broth of newt’s eye and frog’s toe.</p>
<p>The good thing is that Cheney’s damned spot will not out and that his successors’ fortunes will fare no better.  I’m optimistic that blogs such as yours can be the substitute carriers of the Birnam woods to Capitol Hill.  </p>
<p>The Right has no shame, no restraint, no context for its angst, just greed and lust for power, diapers and no accountability.  It will be up to citizens and their pitchforks to make clear whether those are sufficient attributes for high office and the control of their courthouse, state house and White House.</p>
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		<title>By: RevBev</title>
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		<dc:creator>RevBev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 15:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So, maybe that’s all of them, as in don’t piss ‘em off…+ no telling how many have a “hot” lunch date.  N’est pas?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, maybe that’s all of them, as in don’t piss ‘em off…+ no telling how many have a “hot” lunch date.  N’est pas?</p>
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		<title>By: douglas</title>
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		<dc:creator>douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 15:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I find this unfair to the Times.  The article certainly sets out the criticism being used as a feeble weapon by the right, but the people it interviews and the explanations they give completely undermine that criticism.  Even the lawyer who was supposedly the victim of vicious questioning says in the article that he found no problem with that questioning.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Substantively, I have worked in the appellate court system for 30 years, and the worst, hack-ridden panels of judges I have seen are those who ask no questions or who are overly deferential to the attorneys.  The law is a tough business.  The tougher the questioning, the more the truth will out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this unfair to the Times.  The article certainly sets out the criticism being used as a feeble weapon by the right, but the people it interviews and the explanations they give completely undermine that criticism.  Even the lawyer who was supposedly the victim of vicious questioning says in the article that he found no problem with that questioning.  </p>
<p>Substantively, I have worked in the appellate court system for 30 years, and the worst, hack-ridden panels of judges I have seen are those who ask no questions or who are overly deferential to the attorneys.  The law is a tough business.  The tougher the questioning, the more the truth will out.</p>
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