SCOTUS: Straight Talk With Sen. Thune

In case you were wondering, bigotry is apparently alive and well for some in the GOP when considering a hypothetical SCOTUS appointment.  One that hasn’t even been made yet. 

Via Steve Benen:

As [Thune] put it, the nominee has to be straight, otherwise the would-be justice "would be a bridge too far right now." Honestly, what the hell does that mean? Thune, as a practical matter, is establishing a litmus test — qualifications and merit are important, but homosexuality, regardless of any other factor, is more important. Why? Because Thune says so.

Well, I guess that leaves Big Gay Al out of the running.

How far over the edge have you gone when even Jeff Sessions runs away from your idiocy?  I mean, honestly, that’s really saying something. 

Gay bigotry. It’s not so super, thanks for asking. 

Especially when you are talking judicial temperament. 

Guess we all have a good idea where Thune stands on privacy rights, don’t we? Given his legislative voting record, I can’t say I’m shocked by this sort of sexual preference litmus test.  Especially since Thune’s already used this tack in his last electoral fight.

It’s just that usually the bigoted and oppressive try to at least couch their crapola in more palatable terms.  Hell, even Strom Thurmond knew to do that for the most part.

Let me just say for the record, I don’t care who the judge I’m arguing before sleeps with, so long as it isn’t opposing counsel. 

If s/he does their job well, neither should you.  How about we raise the bar on competence, justice and fairness instead of constantly trying to peek under people’s robes?  Or is that just too much to ask?


 
33 Responses to "SCOTUS: Straight Talk With Sen. Thune"
Christy Hardin Smith | Wednesday May 6, 2009 02:35 pm 1

I have this need to call Thune’s office tomorrow and ask whether the Senator has a problem with nominees of color, or women, or if his bigotry is restricted solely to homsexuality. And then ask the person whether the Senator is aware of Federal laws which, in many agencies and governmental offices, protect employees against discriminatory hiring practices for sexual preference.

You know, like the DOJ. Why do people learn nothing whatsoever from other scandals?

Against whom would Jesus discriminate, sir? SIGH


demi | Wednesday May 6, 2009 03:27 pm 2

Do it. Call him. Ask him and give us the details.
Gay bigotry just makes me So Mad!
Did you see what Joe the Plumber said?
He wouldn’t let gays anywhere near his children. No, he’s not a senator, but he might have voted for one.
Here’s what Tony Peyser says:
VERSE-CASE SCENARIO
by Tony Peyser
Some of my best friends are plumbers
They did good work & made reasonable bids
But while they’re nice, there is no way
That I’d ever let them be alone with my kids.
I like Tony. He’s funny.


oldgold | Wednesday May 6, 2009 03:41 pm 3

Folks like Thune might want to consider how history has treated politicians who have embraced bigotry as the times are changing.

Does he want to be remembered in the same manner as Lester Maddox or Orville Faubus?
Given his extreme vanity, [I know him] I doubt it.


Christy Hardin Smith | Wednesday May 6, 2009 04:12 pm 4
In response to oldgold @ 3

I wondered if he’d even thought about it before the words came flying out of his mouth. And who put them there in the first place — him or some moneyed campaign donor nee 501(c)(3) interest group funder.


oldgold | Wednesday May 6, 2009 04:32 pm 5

Here is Thune in 2005. Then, he didn’t like Senators that blocked the President’s judicial nominations.

In the campaign, you sharply criticized those who blocked the President’s judicial nominations. What’s ahead?
To shut off a filibuster, you have to have 60 votes in the Senate. We still don’t have 60 votes. But we have new leadership on the Democratic side. I hope members of the Senate who previously had been held hostage to their party’s leadership will now feel more freedom to vote their conscience. I don’t know, maybe they did. But it seems to me that some of these guys who represent states that are more conservative than their national party, might now be thinking twice and might be more inclined to support not only legislation but also judicial nominations that are more in line with their state’s interest and their state’s fundamental beliefs and values.

http://www.christianitytoday.c…..ml?start=2


Millineryman | Wednesday May 6, 2009 04:41 pm 6

This was before Jeff Gannon became a scandal himself I believe, but I’m not convinced that no one knew about him.
And then there was Jeff Gannon’s connection to Thune’s election. My bold.

One of the most talked-about examples of the power of blogging is the story of how Senator John Thune paid bloggers to attack the media and how this allowed him to beat for Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle. This story became even more interesting after information came out on how GOP prostitute and fake report Jeff Gannon, “worked in tandem with the local bloggers, picking up on their complaints ab
out the Argus Leader.”

Before he was buttering up Bush at White House press conferences, “Jeff Gannon” was doing the GOP’s dirty work in attacking Tom Daschle.

Feb 18, 2005 | Long before “Jeff Gannon” became a household pseudonym in the nation’s capital, he had earned considerable recognition among the political elites of South Dakota. During that state’s closely contested Senate race last year, the Talon News writer — whose real name is now known to be James Dale Guckert — dug his claws deep into Tom Daschle, the former Senate minority leader narrowly defeated by Republican John Thune.


RevBev | Wednesday May 6, 2009 04:49 pm 7

Way OT: Anyone thinking about how the Arlen storywill play out? I saw only a part of the coverage and from a distance, so many details were sketchy…but he looked awful.


eCAHNomics | Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:02 pm 8
In response to RevBev @ 7

He’s energetically digging his grave imo.


Loo Hoo. | Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:02 pm 9

Why doesn’t he just come out of the closet? Anyone beating it (hah) this hard must really be torn.


Twain | Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:06 pm 10
In response to Loo Hoo. @ 9

Maybe he was inspired by Dobson’s latest rant in which he named all the things he considered perversions – including dead people sex. Nice. /s


KayInMaine | Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:12 pm 11

One day the right wing of America tried to raise the bar for it’s party but the bar fell down the stairs and plunged off into the cloudy abyss.


jayt | Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:21 pm 12
In response to eCAHNomics @ 8

Dear Senator Specter:

I have some really sweet shovels – yours for the asking.

Sincerely,

jayt


emerson | Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:22 pm 13

It’s time to push the envelope and make the thugs react to us. Of the SCOTUS candidates mentioned so far, the best IMO is Pamela Karlen. Besides the sweet irony of someone named Karlen (Carlin ?) on the Supreme Court, I cannot imagine a stronger, more outside the box thinker, or better representative for progressives. She would not let blustering fools like Scalia run roughshod over her or the Constitution.

I don’t know if she’s gay. She talks about her partner, which after 27 years in the SF Bay Area, tells me yes. But I don’t know and I don’t give a damn. If the thugs want to make themselves look even more like the sordid sub-humans they are, go right ahead. And if they knock that nomination down, move on to the next most qualified woman. And if it’s Sotomayor, let them show their true colors and turn down the Latino woman representing the largest growing sector of the American population. We’ll see how that plays in 2010 and 2012.

In other words, grow a pair!


jayt | Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:23 pm 14

How far over the edge have you gone when even Jeff Sessions runs away from your idiocy?

well, senator Sessions *is* something of an expert in idiocy….


KayInMaine | Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:25 pm 15
In response to jayt @ 12

And Jayt? I have some wicked good hip boots to go with those shovels. ;-)


Synoia | Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:26 pm 16

The republic reaction to this potentially socialist appointment to the Supreme Court of the United States demonstrates the republican determination to protect this country from malice and bigotry, by ensuring the best candidate, suitable to bipartisan embrace, is appointed to the court.

It really brings out the Republican’s best side, their broadmindedness, egalitarian focus, inclusiveness, and overall fitness to represent the people in the people’s government.

I hope they reflect and consider that their every public utterance is recorded, and they will be richly rewarded in their next election for their sterling and upright work.


Eureka Springs | Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:28 pm 17

Thuneology… It’s not a litmus test, as long as you are hetero.


Twain | Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:28 pm 18
In response to jayt @ 14

Not too surprising for someone name Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III


jayt | Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:31 pm 19
In response to Twain @ 18

*humming Johnny Cash’s A Boy Named Sue”.*


jayt | Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:34 pm 20

“Thune”.

do I hear a lisp?


KayInMaine | Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:42 pm 21
In response to jayt @ 20

*cupping ear to listen* I think someone is trying to say, “soon”.


MattYellingAtTheMoon | Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:43 pm 22

Isn’t Thune up for re-election in 2010?


allan | Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:51 pm 23

The GOP needs to reorganize its leadership.


Twain | Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:56 pm 24
In response to allan @ 23

What leadership? they can’t decide whether it’s Rush, Newt, Ms. McConnell or Michael (da man) Steele. I think they should stay right where they are – it’s great for the Dems.


Twain | Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:57 pm 25
In response to Twain @ 24

I forgot Sarah – shame on me.


jayt | Wednesday May 6, 2009 07:01 pm 26
In response to KayInMaine @ 21

after some dental work last week, I seem to have acquired something of a brand new lisp. Who knew that those things were so expensive?

I should have gotten a used one.


oldoilfieldhand | Wednesday May 6, 2009 07:15 pm 27
In response to jayt @ 14

Jeff Sessions, me thinks has “undercover” experience in another perennial hot topic.


PPDCUS | Wednesday May 6, 2009 07:30 pm 28

Thanks, Christy.

Sessions, ranking minority Judiciary member, was quoted on NPR tonight favoring the Gang of 14 opposition to blocking Obama’s SCOTUS nominee by filibuster, the same as the former war criminal in chief. He said that in a private conversation with Obama, he’d been assured that Souter’s replacement wouldn’t be a bomb thrower.

After eight years of poisoning the federal bench with Federalist Society kool-aid drinkers, we’ll see if Obama stands up for the Constitution and rule of law by getting someone on the Court that deserves the title, the Honorable Justice …


PPDCUS | Wednesday May 6, 2009 07:38 pm 29
In response to Twain @ 24

Like rearranging their chairs on the Hindenburg.


Socked Salmon | Wednesday May 6, 2009 07:46 pm 30
In response to Christy Hardin Smith @ 1

I seem to recall that congress regularly exempting itself from certain legislation it passes…sigh

Why do so many of our elected officials behave like the south end of a horse going north?


VictorLaszlo | Wednesday May 6, 2009 08:17 pm 31

How about a candidate who isn’t really gay, but experimented a little in college? Would that be acceptable to Thune, I wonder?


Loo Hoo. | Wednesday May 6, 2009 09:09 pm 32
In response to jayt @ 26

You should have gone to Mexico. Best dental work ever!


cinnamonape | Thursday May 7, 2009 08:50 am 33

Thune- best argument against “Gay people have all the rights that straights have…so why should we give them ’special rights’” there is. He just proved that one can’t be gay and even be considered for the Supreme Court regardless of the qualifications and expertise. Race..okay. Woman…okay. But not…by God..A GAY!


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