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SCOTUS: Do Signs Point To Judge Sonia Sotomayor?

Occasionally, a clue gets dropped in a casual remark that points to something particular in the decision making process. A sign, if you will, of things to come.

I think one such sign may point more firmly toward Judge Sonia Sotomayor as Obama’s SCOTUS pick. It’s a guess, but see what you think.

The Blog of Legal Times mentioned a quote I remembered hearing from the Obama of the campaign trail:

During the presidential campaign in 2007, Obama made that point when he said, “Sometimes we’re only looking at academics or people who’ve been in the [lower courts]. If we can find people who have life experience and they understand what it means to be on the outside, what it means to have the system not work for them, that’s the kind of person I want on the Supreme Court.”

As Jeffrey Toobin pointed out back in February when the news of Justice Ginsburg’s pancreatic cancer broke, both she and Justice Thurgood Marshall had a wealth of legal experience outside the usual "academia and the bench" resume of SCOTUS hopefuls.

Justice Marshall had dealt with discrimination throughout his lifetime and had an active hand in changing the laws of this country for the better:

Marshall had seen segregation his entire life. His mother taught kindergarten in all-black schools, where she earned far less by law than white teachers. After college, Marshall wanted to attend law school at the University of Maryland but the school did not accept blacks. Two years after graduating from the law school at historically black Howard University, Marshall, with help from Howard Law School dean and mentor Charles Hamilton Houston, won a lawsuit forcing the University of Maryland to integrate its law school.

Houston had brought Marshall into the NAACP Legal Defense Fund and their work set the stage for what was to become the Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, Kan., case. In addition to Topeka, Brown was accompanied by similar cases from around the country: South Carolina, Virginia, Delaware and the District of Columbia.

When the case went to the Supreme Court, Marshall argued that school segregation was a violation of individual rights under the 14th Amendment. He also asserted that the only justification for continuing to have separate schools was to keep people who were slaves "as near that stage as possible."

Justice Ginsburg similarly fought those battles on the gender front as the founder of the ACLU’s landmark Women’s Rights Project:

Although she arrived without a civil rights agenda, the treatment Ginsburg received as a woman in law school honed her feminist instincts. One of only nine women at Harvard Law School in 1956, Ginsburg and her female classmates were asked by the dean why they were occupying seats that would otherwise be filled by men….

Prompted by her own experiences, Ginsburg began to handle sex discrimination complaints referred to her by the New Jersey affiliate of the American Civil Liberties Union. Ginsburg envisioned that men and women would "create new traditions by their actions, if artificial barriers are removed, and avenues of opportunity held open to them."3 The ACLU Women’s Rights Project was born in 1972 under Ginsburg’s leadership, in order to remove these barriers and open these opportunities. That same year, Ginsburg became the first woman to be granted tenure at Columbia Law School.

So, why do I think all of this may point to Judge Sonia Sotomayor of the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals? Several things.

She grew up in the projects in the Bronx, lost her father at the age of nine, and was raised along with her brother (who is now a doctor) by her single mother. That’s some life experience to bring to the table.

She began school having much more Spanish than English, but managed to graduate in top levels of her classes all the way through.  And went on to become the editor of a law journal at Yale.

She has worked both in a district attorney’s office as a trial lawyer in New York as well as in private practice before her seat on the 2nd circuit, so she has trial chops to bring to the table as well.

She was appointed to the bench originally by George H.W. Bush and is considered, even by conservatives who have been before her, as a moderate judge who is particularly well-versed in the law and well-prepared. That makes for good pushback on GOP antics, it’s just a pity we have to think politics and not legal temperament.

Potential questions: she’s been on the bench 16 years, so she brings a long trail of opinions that the Federalist Society types are already poring over to nitpick (you know they are). She also was diagnosed with diabetes at the age of 8, so despite being younger (she’s 54), there are significant health questions there that will need to be answered to the president’s vetting team.

And, sadly, she’s a Yankees fan — you can’t have everything.

I’ll be taking a look at other candidates and opinions and such as the days move forward. So expect more as I keep on digging. If any of you have appeared before Sotomayor, or any of the other potential candidates being bandied about, please let me know your thoughts.

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47 Responses to "SCOTUS: Do Signs Point To Judge Sonia Sotomayor?"
demi | Saturday May 2, 2009 07:51 am 1

Thanks for this thoughtful post, Christy. I find that regular dunkings at the Lake keeps me ahead of the curve. I appreciate all of the work you do.


Prairie Sunshine | Saturday May 2, 2009 07:54 am 2

Sotomayor sounds like a top tier candidate, if not the top tier candidate. She also sounds just like Obama…. single mom, editor of a law journal, etc.

The first time I heard Obama describe his ideal candidate, I felt it really resonated from his own understanding of the power of his personal and professional experience.


Prairie Sunshine | Saturday May 2, 2009 07:55 am 3
In response to Prairie Sunshine @ 2

raised by a single mom…

And amen to demi’s words in 1.


Christy Hardin Smith | Saturday May 2, 2009 07:55 am 4
In response to demi @ 1

You are most welcome. Am doing quite a bit of digging on opinions and law review articles and such, and will have more of these to come on several others supposedly “in the running” for the SCOTUS nod. Glad you find this helpful, too — I find lining all the pros and cons out to be really useful as I’m looking at all of this.


RevBev | Saturday May 2, 2009 08:13 am 5

I think, not sure, that Obama repeated that litany of qualifications on yesterday when he was talking about the Souter resignation….Sounds like lots of us looking for a face that is not old, white, male (Can I say that?)


demi | Saturday May 2, 2009 08:17 am 6
In response to Christy Hardin Smith @ 4

Do you remember, way back when, it might have been one of your Justice Monday posts, you were making a point that when looking at candidates, we should ask where they stand on candidates for SCOTUS? Obama’s clues in what he said may turn out to be even more revealing than we thought. Rick Warren had questions regarding judges, but they didn’t reveal anything very deep, did they?


Leen | Saturday May 2, 2009 08:18 am 7

She was mentioned three times on Chris Matthews Hardball last night.


Prairie Sunshine | Saturday May 2, 2009 08:23 am 8
In response to Leen @ 7

I’d do a strikeout on Hardball and change to Hairball *g* but the formatting for doesn’t seem to work for me here.

Whazzup with the grilling Matthews was giving Turley the other night about what his motives are?

What are Matthews’ motives for furthering the “it’s okay, it jus’ was our buddy the big package decideratin’”? Why is Matthews an apologist for the dictatorship Bush years?


Leen | Saturday May 2, 2009 08:36 am 9
In response to Prairie Sunshine @ 8

You must not watch the show very often. I can’t stand some of the things Matthews has to say but the guy challenges my thinking. I listen to Amy Goodman when I want to agree with everything the journalist is asking or reporting about.

Sorry to report to you that Matthews was asking hard questions of the neocons before the invasion (Kristol, Woolsey, Frum, Bolton) whether you believe that or not. I watched almost every night as well as listening to other mainstreamers. Diane Rehm and Neil Conan had a very diverse set of guest experts before the invasion. While Matthews will admit that he was partially part of the “groupthink” I did hear him ask and drive some tough questions into the pushers of the war. He was also one of the very first mainstreamers to go into the Walter Reed hospital and report about returning soldiers and what they were going through.

I really did not think we was giving Turley a hard time any more than he throws balls at Buchanan’s thinking


Arbusto | Saturday May 2, 2009 08:39 am 10

Great sleuthing Redd. As you state, Sotomayor could pass muster with the Federalists and the Plantation caucus. After the 2010 election, and another vacancy occurs, we’ll see Obamas true colors, if we haven’t by then anyway, by nominating a more liberal person. I’m rooting for Kathleen Sullivan, but then I’ve always had a thing for red heads.


Leen | Saturday May 2, 2009 08:49 am 11

Christy you sure fill up your well quickly thanks for all you do.

I was thinking about a focus on Congressman Sestak who has not ruled out running in Pennsylvania as a real Dem. I really hate to think about Specter the defector even having the shot at a seat as the Democratic Senator of Penn.

Last night on Hardball Matthews did a great interview with Congressman ASestak about the Pennsylvania race and Specter the ‘defector”

I am contacting Sestak’s office letting him know that I am willing to put in some time for him if he decides to run. Anyone else willing to say yes to Sestak. I have always appreciated and agreed with almost everything I have ever heard Rep Sestak say. Wonder if he would come and visit FDL for a Salon?

go watch Specter’s impact on the Dems
matthews to Sestak ” are you thinking of running”

Matthews to Sestak “let me ask you about Democracy” “now you are being told by the President of the United States that there is not even going to be a primary next year because he is dictated that it is going to be Arlen Spectator the long time Republican is going to be the nominee of your party. IS THAT DEMOCRATIC? Is that Democratic?”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#30524912

As Matthews brings up why in the hell is Obama trying to choose Pennsylvania’s candidate for them?

I am throwing my hat into Sestaks camp if he runs.


msmolly | Saturday May 2, 2009 10:07 am 12

Beerfart Liberal had a couple of negative comments earlier (first hand experience) about Sotomayor, but didn’t seem inclined to elaborate, and it would take more than that to put me off her. If he’d share, well then…


MrWhy | Saturday May 2, 2009 01:10 pm 13

Yankees fan – so she knows there are things money can’t buy.


greenwarrior | Saturday May 2, 2009 09:40 pm 14

personally, i’d love to see someone younger and healthier – for the long haul. oh, and liberal if not progressive. the conservatives will still be in the majority even so.


Prairie Sunshine | Sunday May 3, 2009 08:13 am 15
In response to Leen @ 9

Your conclusion jumping is “interesting.” In fact, I watch Hardball virtually every weekday. As for the rest, lets just agree to disagree, hmmmmmmm.

And yes, I do hold Chris Matthews to a higher standard than some, even many, others. But then I do the same with President Obama, my two homestate Senators, and who I perceive are capable of living up to that higher standard.

I hold no such expectations of a legion who shall remain nameless.


Prairie Sunshine | Sunday May 3, 2009 08:20 am 16

Admittedly hectic around here this ayem, Mr. S says he thinks George Will just said that he lives and breathes the words that start the constitution: Congress shall pass no law.

My pocket Constitution begins: We the People.

Another Will-full disregard?

Would Politico approve of the This Week panel demographics this ayem?


BerkeleyMom | Sunday May 3, 2009 08:32 am 17

I hear she is a real difficult person to work for and the Repubs are already questioning her”temperament”. Her toughness may well come in handy at the Judiciary committee hearings!


Twain | Sunday May 3, 2009 08:34 am 18

When Sotomayor was up for 2nd Circuit, she received about half of the Rs approval votes including Hatch. She might not have too many problems getting confirmed.


demi | Sunday May 3, 2009 08:38 am 19

Do you remember where you heard that? I’d like to read up. Get the skinny, as it were.


demi | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:05 am 20
In response to Twain @ 18

Oh, really? Is it time to start making them eat their words?
This is what he said this morning:
As for the president’s process of selecting a nominee, GOPers were already sounding alarm. Sen. Orrin Hatch, who formerly chaired the Judiciary Committee, said that the broad standards that Obama had laid out for a Court pick — including the quality of empathy — were tantamount to committing himself to an “activist judge.”

“Well, it’s a matter of great concern,” said Hatch on ABC’s This Week. “If he’s saying that he wants to pick people who will take sides, he has also said a judge has to be a person of empathy? What does that mean? Usually that’s a code word for an activist judge. But he also said that he’s going to select judges on the basis of their personal politics, their personal feelings, their personal preferences. Now, you know, those are all code words for an activist judge who is going to, you know, be partisan on the bench.”
We’ll see how this goes, but I’d like to remind them of where they’ve been.


laborite57 | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:06 am 21

Once again Obama is showing his peculiar talent that allows people to see in him exactly what they want to see.

I like Granholm for SCOTUS. Obama has made some references to going outside the academic world or the appellate bench, and Granholm meets that desire nicely. Obama’s old law professor Ogletree said on the teevee today that Obama was a great admirer of Earl Warren, and Graholm provides a nice 2009 update to the Warren example.

I also find it interesting that Granholm’s name was leaked out of the White House yet the usual commentators seem to be ignoring her.


STTPinOhio | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:10 am 22
In response to demi @ 1

Thanks for this thoughtful post, Christy. I find that regular dunkings at the Lake keeps me ahead of the curve. I appreciate all of the work you do.

Let me also start with a hearty “Amen” to demi’s comments as well.

Will send more financial support just as soon as Murphy’s Law takes a break from my life.

As I think about it I’ll be in WV in about 3 hours; my brother likes to support the casinos — I’ll holler “Hi Redd!” when I cross the river!

On to SCOTUS, after reading your comments she’s seems like a no brainer if there’s no skeletons in her closet because she’s qualified and a twofer; satisfies the need for more women and Latinos on the bench.


eCAHNomics | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:13 am 23

If we can find people who have life experience and they understand what it means to be on the outside, what it means to have the system not work for them, that’s the kind of person I want on the Supreme Court.

Heh. I just came in from outside & flipped on CNN to hear Leahy saying almost the identical thing. A D talking point?


hackworth1 | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:14 am 24

Are Republican votes needed to confirm Obama’s new pick? Reading Sotomayor’s wikipedia, one cannot discern that she is very liberal at all. IIRC, not only has she been associated with GHW Bu$h, she has been involved with either banking, finance or real estate. Does anyone here know what her positions are on Stem Cell research, Roe V Wade, privacy rights and other important Constitutional issues?


Bustednuckles | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:16 am 25

Thanks for the research Christy.

I know I would love to see a progressive lady get that seat.
I’m still pissed off about Alito….

Morning pups.


STTPinOhio | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:16 am 26
In response to Leen @ 11

I am throwing my hat into Sestaks camp if he runs.

I’m beginning to feel the need to hop on that train as well.

Specter recoiled when asked if he said he’d be “a loyal Democrat” in talks with Obama.

Now, I know this was all about being opportunistic, but to not even feel the need to show some appreciation to the party that would be keeping your sorry ass in the senate is a bit too arrogant for me.


Hugh | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:17 am 27

I would still prefer a real liberal. After all, conservatives have no problem getting not just conservative but arch-conservative nominees on the court.

This is what selise refers to as the ratchet effect. Republicans keep moving further and further to the right and Democrats keep splitting the difference with them. The result is more and more conservative choices by the Democrats so that now the left fringe for them is a moderate conservative.


Twain | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:18 am 28
In response to hackworth1 @ 24

Can’t answer those questions but she was appointed to the 2nd Circuit by Clinton.


solai | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:24 am 29
In response to STTPinOhio @ 26

Same here. You don’t just get to use the dem label because your own is toxic (that’ s what the blue dogs are for).


Hugh | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:25 am 30
In response to demi @ 20

Orrin Hatch is your typical partisan Republican hack. His beating the war drums is just a ploy to push Obama further to the right in whatever choice he makes. With only 21% of the country identifying as Republicans, the real question here is why anyone should give a shit about the Republicans think on this or anything.

The meme we should be pushing is that the Republicans have become an extremist party, outside the mainstream. If they want bipartisanship then they should be moderating their views rather than Democrats making concessions to them.


jayt | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:26 am 31

“Well, it’s a matter of great concern,” said Hatch on ABC’s This Week. “If he’s saying that he wants to pick people who will take sides, he has also said a judge has to be a person of empathy? What does that mean? Usually that’s a code word for an activist judge.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..95317.html

Usually? There’s a history of “empathy” being a code-word?

Hatch is so fulla shit… the guy makes my skin crawl.


nahant | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:27 am 32
In response to Bustednuckles @ 25

Morning Busted… Hows things up in the great North West?
Christy you continue to amaze me with you knowledge and depth you bring to the subject. Thanks for enlightening me on the possible SCOTS candidates!! I agree with Busted a nice progressive Lady on the bench would be welcomed, preferably one who has children. Children because until you have to dedicate your life to nurturing another life do you truly gain the empathy of your fellow Woman/Man. And bring such empathy to the Law is much needed. We must treasure each and every life in our country and when doing so the law will do the most good for the most people and not just for a few connected few as Scalia seems to do.


masaccio | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:28 am 33

Diverse life experiences may be nice, but I think it’s about time we had a Justice who didn’t go to and Ivy League law school. Those people are immersed in the abstract world of law, and are trained to become loyal servants to the moneyed class. That’s why almost all of them wind up working in giant New York law firms.

I say let’s look at someone from the University of Washington or at least Michigan. Someone who has experience in the world of working people, small businessmen and local government.


solai | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:28 am 34

The day Souter announced his retirement someone at FDL commented “Please don’t let it be Sotomayor.” It was posted by a lawyer who had been before her court. Can’t remember who that person was, unfortunately. And he/she didn’t say why they were against her.


Hugh | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:28 am 35
In response to hackworth1 @ 24

Reading Sotomayor’s wikipedia, one cannot discern that she is very liberal at all.

This has been my prediction that Obama will pick a conservative and pass him/her off as a “moderate,” just like he has done with himself.


nahant | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:31 am 36
In response to Hugh @ 30

With only 21% of the country identifying as Republicans, the real question here is why anyone should give a shit about the Republicans think on this or anything.

I couldn’t agree with you more Hugh. They lost and “They sure didn’t pay attention to any of us on the left when they stole power.. So why in hell you Obama give a rats ass to what they think. They had their turn and they totally screwed it up and have left our country a mess that Must be cleaned up and many regulations of the financial world must be reinstated!


foothillsmike | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:41 am 37

The rethugs are lining up to seize the “opportunity” to challenge OB on his pick for SCOTUS without knowing who the nominee is but they’re not the party of NO! /s


laborite57 | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:43 am 38
In response to masaccio @ 33

Amen to that! There are way too many Harvard/Yale mooks in the high councils of our government (sorry, Barack, but I make an exception for you).

Unfortunately my favorite candidate Jennifer Granholm is a graduate of…Harvard Law Scool.


SouthernDragon | Sunday May 3, 2009 09:58 am 39
In response to RevBev @ 5

old, white, male (Can I say that?)

I belong to that demographic and yes, you can. I’d be disappointed if you didn’t. *g*


SouthernDragon | Sunday May 3, 2009 10:00 am 40
In response to jayt @ 31

the guy makes my skin crawl.

You and me both.


SouthernDragon | Sunday May 3, 2009 10:08 am 41
In response to STTPinOhio @ 26

I don’t want somebody who will be loyal to the Democratic Party. I want somebody who will be loyal to the American people. Fuck this Party First bullshit.


rosalind | Sunday May 3, 2009 10:19 am 42
In response to masaccio @ 33

yes. we need regional diversity on the court.


jaango | Sunday May 3, 2009 11:03 am 43

The current Conventional Wisdom is that President Obama will have the opportunity to nominate 3 Supremos over the next 8 years And this might actually hold true. If so, Obama should think ‘tactically’ and if not, he should still think ‘tactically’.

Take for example, the next nominee will not create a Liberal SCOTUS. But if that is Obama’s natural inclination, there is a method in which he can get a two-fer for his national governing agenda, provided he is a ‘pragmatist’. If so, he should nominate Senator Harry Reid.

Okay, now you can vilify me to you heart’s content.

With Harry Reid moving up to SCOTUS for the next six years, Senator Dick Durbin moves up to become the Senate Majority Leader, and whence the political battle in the Senate will increase a tad or two, and three. And yet, if the Conventional Wisdom holds true, Obama would get a fourth bite at the apple, with Reid’s retirement in six years.

And as a Chicano, I would be advocating Sotomayor for SCOTUS, but I think, from the standpoint of ‘crass politics’ and for what is far more important to America in the greater scheme of thinks, Sotomayor can wait a year to two for consideration as the next opening occurs. As such, the ‘game changer’ is not pertinent to a Liberal SCOTUS, until the next vacancy crops up. So, I will bide my time.

Therefore, I much prefer the Reid/Durbin ‘combo’ since the Obama Agenda has far greater improtance to me in my daily life.

As an aside, Reid, having been both an Elected and Appointed Official, as well as a Legislator, has forgotten more about Constitutional Law that the combined knowledge of the Conservatives utilized on SCOTUS. To wit, Reid knows well the inherent boundaries found in the Constitution since he been responsible for all the legislation written by the Democrats and Republicans in the Senate for all these years. And that’s not to be discounted one iota. And seeing Reid match wits with the likes of Alito and Scalia would be a true joy when compared to the politics of the Right for the Bircherisms, here in the Sonoran Desert.

Jaango


WaltTrombone | Sunday May 3, 2009 12:54 pm 44
In response to masaccio @ 33

Well, I went to HS with Judge Sotomayor, and she was always at the top tiers of the class. I wouldn’t hold her Ivy League edumacation against her, because she EARNED it, unlike a recently departed Preznit who only got into Yale as a legacy.

I didn’t know her too well in HS, she was one of the brainiacs, and I was a band geek who tolerated academics only to the point of getting by. Having also been raised in the Bronx by a single mom (back when being a single mom wasn’t quite the trendy thing to add to one’s resume), I can relate to her achieving what she has IN SPITE of her humble beginnings. No day care, limited career choices for her mom, and mine.

She earned her ride at Yale, and made damn good use of it.


billthechowchow | Sunday May 3, 2009 01:40 pm 45

Any thoughts on Leah Ward Sears, who retires from the Supreme Court of Georgia in June?


stevelaudig | Sunday May 3, 2009 06:17 pm 46

“Federalist Society types”. The Federalist Society is now rebranded the “Torturist Society”. Let them look at those memos.


STTPinOhio | Monday May 4, 2009 05:21 am 47
In response to SouthernDragon @ 41

I don’t want somebody who will be loyal to the Democratic Party. I want somebody who will be loyal to the American people. Fuck this Party First bullshit.

I agree with you in principle, but in the real world D and R is all we have right now and so in the short term it would be nice if he showed some appreciation to the providers of his life boat.


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