When Wingnuts Manufacture Their Own Malarky…

This is one of those "when a tree falls in a forest" sorts of questions, I suppose. Because, frankly, I grow weary of the "I know you are, but what am I?" level of retort from the self-same bozos who lambasted anyone who dared question the mispronunciation of nuke-u-lar as unpatriotic communism.

I mean, hell, David Letterman is able to encapsulate "the stupid, it burns" in a mere matter of minutes. (YouTube)

But, honestly, watch these YouTubes and tell me that you don’t get a sense of who might be well informed and who might be a wee bit on the disengaged and doltish side of things.

First one, George W. Bush at SAIS, answering a question from a first-year student on legal questions pertaining to contractors in Iraq:

Now this one is President Obama from last night’s news conference, the one right-wing blogs and pundits have called dull and uninformed. I found Obama to be more than conversant on the issues last night, and the fact that he speaks in complete sentences using real words was a net plus for me.

See what you think:

Now, this lovely interview with George W. Bush and an Irish television reporter, wherein the answers get very Sarah Palin-esque in their stalling and drawling quality. It’s an extended, unedited clip, so you get the full flavor here:

Finally, here’s Barack Obama again at last night’s presser, answering an odd question from Ann Compton about race and the economy:

And I don’t have video of this, but I did get a fairly thorough transcript of most off the kuff Q&A (but for the dachshund interruptus at the end) after a Rose Garden statement on the economy the other day. You tell me — more informed, engaged, and coherent than Bush? Or less?

 
64 Responses to "When Wingnuts Manufacture Their Own Malarky…"
WVAPA | Wednesday March 25, 2009 01:00 pm 1

Most of the reporters at the press conference last night tried to seem intelligent. May failed. But how refreshing to have a president again who is bright, informed about real issues and who can speak in complete sentences. I don’t agree with everything Obama has done so far, but my god, at least he puts some brain power to work on the job.


Christy Hardin Smith | Wednesday March 25, 2009 01:05 pm 2
In response to WVAPA @ 1

I don’t always agree, either — and, frankly, I don’t expect to do so all the time. But the fact that you can see that he’s actively thinking? Nice change of pace all by itself.


AZ Matt | Wednesday March 25, 2009 01:43 pm 3

Certainly he is wa-a-a-ay ahead to last resident of the White House.


Rayne | Wednesday March 25, 2009 01:47 pm 4

You know what’s refreshing?

I am actually watching a president’s presser all the way through to completion.

Without throwing anything or screaming.

My spouse is actually watching a president’s presser all the way through to completion.

And he’s been sitting on the couch, next to me, holding my hand or snuggling while we watch together.

And the kids — both the teenager and tweenager — actually watch the president’s presser all the way through to completion.

And the kids ask lots of intelligent questions about the president’s speech and about the questions from the press, and they don’t complain about boredom.

It’s absolutely incredible, never thought I would see this day come.


Waccamaw | Wednesday March 25, 2009 01:56 pm 5

Wingnuts gravitate to those of their own level of intelligence and they got their mirror image…..bush.


Redshift | Wednesday March 25, 2009 01:57 pm 6

I think it’s another round of what Amanda Marcotte wrote about a month or so ago — part of the reason the wingnut faction is now shrinking is that they are almost constantly speaking to each other in code, and have become completely impenetrable to anyone who is not already steeped in their mythology. Thus they completely ignore that Bush didn’t have press conferences because he couldn’t handle unscripted questions, and respond to an Obama press conference with fairly detailed off-the-cuff answers with calls of “teleprompter!” and “boring!” followed by Beavis-and-Butthead laughter.

One of the commenters on the Balloon Juice post you linked to earlier had a comment about how the “teleprompter” had done at the press conference. I assumed that it was mockery of the wingnut idiocy, since Obama was clearly answering off-the-cuff, but no. It turned out that was the resident troll, and he was serious, referring to the president as “The Teleprompter” and oblivious to how ludicrous it was to apply the cookie-cutter speechmaking insult to an unscripted press conference. It was just weird.


amilius | Wednesday March 25, 2009 03:15 pm 7

I think it’s all a product of the wingnuts yearning to cover a person less articulate and less informed than they are. Face it, the press pool and pundits speaking afterwords only succeeded in making themselves look less than articulate and tragically ignorant of their topic: the government.


Christy Hardin Smith | Wednesday March 25, 2009 03:25 pm 8

I meant to say that folks should be certain to watch the Letterman YouTube — it’s fricking hilarious.


Petrocelli | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:04 pm 9

Letterman has delivered some great zingers of video clips featuring Dubya.

I thought the Press Corp appeared to have OD’d on Tryptophan last night … even Ed Henry’s disingenuous outrage.


ThingsComeUndone | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:14 pm 10

The GOP media has no shame or reflection in the mirror Because when you lie so bad to promote the Stupid. it helps not to have reflection so you don’t have to see yourself in the Mirror every day.
God is all knowing to deny knowledge is to deny God (I think I got the St Augestine right)
Following Bush when you know he is stupid is evil, Evil with consequences like 2 lost wars a destroyed economy, New Orleans etc etc etc.


Teddy Partridge | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:17 pm 11

Wingnuts know they can’t really openly play the race card anymore, especially about the President in a Time of War, so they’ve tried to come up with these proxies: the swing set, the teleprompter, the Leno appearance, the laughter on 60 Minutes, the “boring” press conference.

Seriously, there’s a question or two over at the White House Questions section for tomorrow’s online chat that criticize our millionaire president for buying his daughters such an expensive swing set.


Teddy Partridge | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:18 pm 12

I liked it when Gene Robinson of the WaPo told Keith tonight that the President “made Ed Henry his companion” in his oh===>snap answer about not having an immediate response to the AIG bonuses.


siri | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:19 pm 13

it’s the “shock” factor, having gone from “Peeance freeance” to a Harvard scholar.
Everyone’s in shock. i don’t expect to see folks get used to it for quite some time, actually.


cbl2 | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:19 pm 14
In response to Rayne @ 4

Stranger Than Fiction # 719820

mr cbl’s boss – lifelong TX Republican, small business owner came in this am – big smile on his face, telling mr cbl how much he liked “my president” “what a smart guy” “maybe he can get us out of this mess”


billybugs | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:20 pm 15

I still prefer the current occupant of the White House over the previous one


Teddy Partridge | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:20 pm 16

I wonder if Dave Letterman would challenge Evan Bayh in next year’s Democratic primary.


ThingsComeUndone | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:21 pm 17

I think you are on to something Christy something even the GOP sees I read some press hack complain about Obama reading a telepromter today.
I think the GOP is trying to hold the fact that Obama can read against him.
Bush couldn’t read the teleprompter for to long the words moved to fast. Bush could not ab lib, but he could dodge a question.
The secret it helps if you don’t know the answer.
The secret of Obama’s popularity he can answer most of your questions and does.
Bush never gave real informed answers even when he answered a question it was in sound bites.


cbl2 | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:22 pm 18
In response to Teddy Partridge @ 11

gently confronted a much younger friend last night – she didn’t seem to realize her taking exception to all his recent public appearances just might have something to do with someone not knowing his place – oooh she no likey


ThingsComeUndone | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:23 pm 19

Ted @11 So thats why Bobby Jindal is responding to Obama when he speaks? Isn’t that reverse discrimination or is that Tokenism?


billybugs | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:24 pm 20

A thinking man in the White House
What a refreshing thought


billybugs | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:25 pm 21

What’s up with the missing comments several names have no comments below


Hugh | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:26 pm 22

I only wish Obama’s policies were half as intelligent as he is.


cbl2 | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:26 pm 23
In response to billybugs @ 21

saw it a moment ago as well, same over at Oxdown earlier – hitting refresh seems to be the remedy


Rayne | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:27 pm 24
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 17

The secret of Obama’s popularity he can answer most of your questions and does.
Bush never gave real informed answers even when he answered a question it was in sound bites.

Obama’s secret is that he doesn’t rely on a little receiver in his ear telling him what to say.

That, and Obama is not a dry or wet drunk.

Damned hard to read a teleprompter if you’re bombed out of your gourd. I swear the goopers are struggling to rationalize as normal what they experienced for the last eight years.

Just glad my kids don’t have to see that crazy talk passing for leadership any longer.


Loo Hoo. | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:30 pm 25

Lordy, I am so delighted that we don’t have to continue listening to W. What a freak show he was. The Irish journalist was so good, and he was such a rude idiot to her. Why was he smirking when she mentioned the four dead Americans? The guy is sick. He probably ordered up the torture videos for his own pleasure.

Thank you President Obama for bringing us out of these dark times.


katymine | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:36 pm 26

I have spent more breakfasts with BO than I have with any President…. yes I watch them all the way through and other than the stupid reporter questions I haven’t thrown a single nerf ball at the the TeeVee

Hi Christy!


sadlyyes | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:42 pm 27
In response to siri @ 13

2 HAAAAAAAAAAAAAvad scholars ,one actually attended class…LOL


cbl2 | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:42 pm 28
In response to Redshift @ 6

excellent Marcotte.

and maybe another reason – and I am reminded everytime I see Cantor’s vapid visage – is just look who they recruited and are now infested with – pliant, none too bright, boosters – McHenry, Putnam, Kingston, Hensarling, Shuler (oh wait!) Blackburn, ad nauseum, they specifically selected these intellect averse as foot soldiers – and this dfh is quite happy they are now stuck with ‘em.


sadlyyes | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:43 pm 29
In response to katymine @ 26

howdy doodie!


STTPinOhio | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:44 pm 30
In response to katymine @ 26

Brought across from the comments @Washington Monthly:

(re Chuck Todd’s question…)

This inane question shows, as much as anything, the complete disgrace that is the national press corps. The proper answer to this question would have been, “That’s the stupidest question I’ve ever heard, you stupid fucking moron.” Alas, press conference decorum prevents such an answer. Too bad.

Sooooo true!


sadlyyes | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:44 pm 31
In response to Loo Hoo. @ 25

my blood pressure has come down 20 pts…..tru dat


ThingsComeUndone | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:46 pm 32
In response to Rayne @ 24

Hmmm was I of all people being to nice to Bush? Is that what you were hinting at Rayne… Bwhahaha! This is a day of Cognitive Dissonance the last Christy thread I was on was weird too:)


sadlyyes | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:47 pm 33

what gives with Chuckie boy,that had to be the most tone deaf question of the century,or revolution when Marie Antoinette was asked what should the starving eat


billybugs | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:51 pm 34

For so many years our country has been run by the country club set
It’s a welcome change having a man like Obama in the White House instead of the usual members of the ruling class
I feel Obama is sincere in his concern for middle class people , a true President of the people ,and is shrewd enough to bring his agenda to fruition
I just ask that people give him a chance to do what we elected him to do ,we wont always agree with him but we should a least give him our full support.
Changing 30 years of firmly entrenched bad policy is gonna take time and patience


solai | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:51 pm 35
In response to STTPinOhio @ 30

That was a shockingly stupid question. I think it will be long remembered. A classic.


AitchD | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:52 pm 36

It gets confusing in the archives b/c Ike said ‘nuke-u-ler’ but the wingnuts called him a Communist (usually ‘Comminist’).


cbl2 | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:54 pm 37

Oh The Inanity !!!

Our Great Orange Overlord had some fun with that today on his front page – more hilarity in the comments . . .


ThingsComeUndone | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:54 pm 38
In response to billybugs @ 34

For so many years our country has been run by the country club one strand of DNA set

fixed it for you:)


Hugh | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:54 pm 39
In response to STTPinOhio @ 30

LOL!


Teddy Partridge | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:55 pm 40
In response to STTPinOhio @ 30

There will come a time when Obama uses the press corps’ idiocy to connect with the American people. Despite what he apparently believes, Ed Henry was not the winner of last nite’s go-round. And, for Obama, it wasn’t a go-round at all.

More please.


billybugs | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:56 pm 41
In response to billybugs @ 34

Ps if you want to criticize give it to congress those clown still can’t get their acts together
Now we have the Bayh obstructionist wing of the Dem party WTF!!


marymccurnin | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:57 pm 42

The teevee machine has turned on the reporters and made them stoopid. They all need to get out more.


katymine | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:57 pm 43
In response to sadlyyes @ 29

And cbl2 (I didn’t miss your comment)
Hi everyone…… finally got all the doctor cats herded to submit 2 years of ALL my clinical info and have a consult on April 2nd with a kidney cancer specialist at the Scottsdale Mayo


Petrocelli | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:57 pm 44
In response to solai @ 35

Oh give it time … I’m sure the Press Corps can manage to ask even more stupid questions.


billybugs | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:59 pm 45
In response to ThingsComeUndone @ 38

good enough for the development of reptilian brains


katymine | Wednesday March 25, 2009 07:59 pm 46

There is no edit over at christies place…. hmmmm


Loo Hoo. | Wednesday March 25, 2009 08:00 pm 47

I’d like Chuck Todd to answer his own question.


marymccurnin | Wednesday March 25, 2009 08:00 pm 48
In response to katymine @ 43

Hurray! That must have taken mucho determination.


sadlyyes | Wednesday March 25, 2009 08:01 pm 49
In response to katymine @ 43

sending my ULTRA powefull healing rays your way…THEY ALWAYS WORK!!


Prairie Sunshine | Wednesday March 25, 2009 08:01 pm 50

Anyone else notice how nervous Todd was? Maybe that question wasn’t of his choosing…maybe it was forced on him?


Loo Hoo. | Wednesday March 25, 2009 08:01 pm 51

katymine, something’s wrong. There’s no reply button tonight either.


TheLurkingMod | Wednesday March 25, 2009 08:02 pm 52

watertiger is upstairs at the Mothership!
The Creature From the Black Lagoon Wants Obama to Fail


Petrocelli | Wednesday March 25, 2009 08:02 pm 53

I bet Chucky, Eddy and The Chipster were huddled last night after the presser, asking, “What’s wrong with Obama ? The last guy used to make us look smart !”


Loo Hoo. | Wednesday March 25, 2009 08:02 pm 54

By whom, Prairie?


billybugs | Wednesday March 25, 2009 08:03 pm 55
In response to katymine @ 46

commenters at Christy’s place are so good they don’t need edit function


sadlyyes | Wednesday March 25, 2009 08:04 pm 56

Loo Hoo. March 25th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
47
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as many others have stated,id like to sacrifice,Chuckie,Jake,and Chippie,at the AztecAltar


katymine | Wednesday March 25, 2009 08:04 pm 57
In response to billybugs @ 55

the show text just takes you back to that comment too….


billybugs | Wednesday March 25, 2009 08:04 pm 58
In response to Loo Hoo. @ 51

refresh page reply will show


Petrocelli | Wednesday March 25, 2009 08:04 pm 59
In response to marymccurnin @ 42

Chorus of Reporters to MaryMc: “Hey, we don’t need no one’s help to look this stupid !”


cbl2 | Wednesday March 25, 2009 08:05 pm 60
In response to katymine @ 43

good on ya. can barely imagine having the strength for such an undertaking. great to see you!


marymccurnin | Wednesday March 25, 2009 08:07 pm 61

I remember when reporters asked fairly intelligent questions. I remember when senators could do the same. And all of it came before the 30 second sound bite. ADHD permeates the culture.


marymccurnin | Wednesday March 25, 2009 08:08 pm 62
In response to marymccurnin @ 61

reporters
not reports
(I have ADHD)


billybugs | Wednesday March 25, 2009 08:10 pm 63
In response to marymccurnin @ 61

I remember when reporters asked intelligent questions , and politicians gave intelligent answers ! LOL


cbl2 | Thursday March 26, 2009 06:31 am 64

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